Late Night Talkshows and the Church

Jonathan and Barry reflect on office clutter, the demise of late-night television, and New Circle's birthday.

For reference, the podcast we discuss is "The Demise of Late-Night TV Is an Omen for American Culture" from Plain English with Derek Thompson https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/plain-english-with-derek-thompson/2025/07/23/the-demise-of-late-night-tv-is-an-omen-for-american-culture